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Dogman

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 11:11 pm
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Paul E. Schoen

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 12:51 am
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"Dogman" wrote in message

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>
> This dog is overweight:
>
> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b9/Female_labrador_retriever.jpg
>
> This dog isn't:
>
> http://a-z-animals.com/images/animals/labrador_retriever_large.jpg
>
> See the difference?
>
> They're both Labrador retrievers, and they exhibit body types very
> similar to Muttley's.

Here's a dog that's a wee bit pudgy:
http://www.dogdailynews.com/2009/11/07/calling-all-fat-dogs/

And this one:
http://www.mytopdogs.com/veryfatdog.shtml

Part dog, part walrus:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2DqulfqfBo

Let's see you and your dogs, Dogman! Double dirty dog dare ya!

Paul and Muttley
www.muttleydog.com

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 4:41 pm
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 5:36 pm
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 5:50 pm
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"Dogman" wrote

> This dog is overweight:
> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b9/Female_labrador_retriever.jpg

Notice the roll of what seems fat at the shoulder/back and lack of
definition in muscles. The belly 'may' be a little underttucked but can't
really tell but that isnt all the story.

> This dog isn't:
> http://a-z-animals.com/images/animals/labrador_retriever_large.jpg

Note the defined muscles, especially in the legs. Back leg most apparent.

Cash *is* a little over by 5 lbs estimate from the vet but he's got that
almost human 'cut chest' look and the defininition at the back. Vet classed
him as 'overweight' but definately not obese. He is probably 8-9% over
optimal which is *not* good due to his other medical issues but he's
trimming down nicely.

The problem with just judging weight on Cash is exercise (good for him if at
his level of tolerance) makes him translate that fat to muscle so he can be
'perfect' at 54lbs or a little over at 52.

Hehe we are gauging this slowly with assistance. I get free use of the
weigh machine at the vets so we are bringing him over every 2-3 weeks for a
check now (as of last vet visit).
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 5:56 pm
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 6:07 pm
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"Dogman" wrote
> "cshenk" wrote:

>>> This dog is overweight:
>>> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b9/Female_labrador_retriever.jpg
>>
>>Notice the roll of what seems fat at the shoulder/back and lack of
>>definition in muscles. The belly 'may' be a little underttucked but can't
>>really tell but that isnt all the story.
>
> Carol, the only thing one should take from that picture is that the
> dog is overweight. Period.

Discussing the points to look for to tell on another body structure is wrong
to you?

>>> This dog isn't:
>>> http://a-z-animals.com/images/animals/labrador_retriever_large.jpg
>>
>>Note the defined muscles, especially in the legs. Back leg most apparent.
>
> And the only thing that one should take from that picture is that the
> dog is not overweight. Period.

Again, discussion of the points to look for (with that dog shape but in
general terms) may help another.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 6:13 pm
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 6:35 pm
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On Tue, 4 May 2010 17:50:08 -0400, "cshenk" wrote:

>"Dogman" wrote
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>> This dog is overweight:
>> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b9/Female_labrador_retriever.jpg
>
>Notice the roll of what seems fat at the shoulder/back and lack of
>definition in muscles. The belly 'may' be a little underttucked but can't
>really tell but that isnt all the story.

By the time a belly tuckup is no longer visible, the dog is a canine
Shamu. Belly tuckup is not the best judge of weight in a dog, nor is
the number of pounds s/he weighs. It's ribs.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 8:12 pm
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 9:10 pm
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"sighthounds & siberians" wrote
> "cshenk" wrote:

>>Notice the roll of what seems fat at the shoulder/back and lack of
>>definition in muscles. The belly 'may' be a little underttucked but can't
>>really tell but that isnt all the story.

> By the time a belly tuckup is no longer visible, the dog is a canine
> Shamu. Belly tuckup is not the best judge of weight in a dog, nor is
> the number of pounds s/he weighs. It's ribs.

You may find a peek at Doxies 'interesting' on that one.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 9:28 pm
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"Dogman" wrote in message

>
>
> This dog is overweight:
>
> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b9/Female_labrador_retriever.jpg
>
> This dog isn't:
>
> http://a-z-animals.com/images/animals/labrador_retriever_large.jpg
>
> See the difference?
>
> They're both Labrador retrievers, and they exhibit body types very
> similar to Muttley's.
> --
> Dogman
> dogman.TakeThisOut@i1.net

The second dog has a waistline and looks really good. The first one, sadly,
looks like a lot of Labs I see.
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 9:42 pm
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"cshenk" wrote in message

> "sighthounds & siberians" wrote
>> "cshenk" wrote:
>
>>>Notice the roll of what seems fat at the shoulder/back and lack of
>>>definition in muscles. The belly 'may' be a little underttucked but can't
>>>really tell but that isnt all the story.
>
>> By the time a belly tuckup is no longer visible, the dog is a canine
>> Shamu. Belly tuckup is not the best judge of weight in a dog, nor is
>> the number of pounds s/he weighs. It's ribs.
>
> You may find a peek at Doxies 'interesting' on that one.

Why would they be different? They should also have a tucked waist and you
should be able to easily feel their ribs - no fat layers. It's true that
they are commonly overweight, though, and suffer lots of back problems
because of it.
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 10:47 pm
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 2:27 am
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On Tue, 4 May 2010 21:10:56 -0400, "cshenk" wrote:

>"sighthounds & siberians" wrote
>> "cshenk" wrote:
>
>>>Notice the roll of what seems fat at the shoulder/back and lack of
>>>definition in muscles. The belly 'may' be a little underttucked but can't
>>>really tell but that isnt all the story.
>
>> By the time a belly tuckup is no longer visible, the dog is a canine
>> Shamu. Belly tuckup is not the best judge of weight in a dog, nor is
>> the number of pounds s/he weighs. It's ribs.
>
>You may find a peek at Doxies 'interesting' on that one.

Why?
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