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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 7:44 am
Post subject: Dog dosent want to poop
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| I have a 1 1/2 year old Shiba that has never really liked to poop outside when anyone is around or on a lease. She does not poop in the house but likes to go on our outside balcony (we are on second floor apartment). I don't want her to do that. We walk her for hours sometimes and nothing. As soon as we got home, on the balcony she goes. Anyone know of a problem like this?
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 8:29 am
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Brakman wrote:
> She does not poop in the
> house but likes to go on our outside balcony (we are on second floor
> apartment). I don’t want her to do that.
Then don't let her.
> We walk her for hours
> sometimes and nothing. As soon as we got home, on the balcony she
> goes. Anyone know of a problem like this?
I hear it all of the time. Don't allow it. Walk her for 10 minutes,
and if she doesn't poop outside, keep her confined or tethered to you
for another 15, then back outside. Keep repeating. You may want to
take a "sample" outside to the preferred spot, to help her understand
that it's ok to go there. Keep the balcony off limits unless she is
tethered to you. Clean the balcony thoroughly to kill off any scent.
Last resort would be to "match" her outside, but if you stick to a
committed schedule of not allowing her to use the balcony, along with
immediate supervision, you hopefully won't need that.
Pick a weekend to stay home and do this - it may take that long.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 8:36 am
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Janet Boss wrote:
>Last resort would be to "match" her outside, but if you stick to a
>committed schedule of not allowing her to use the balcony, along with
>immediate supervision, you hopefully won't need that.
I've found that's all it takes (and it seems to me that if
you don't have the patience to out-stubborn a dog, this is a
great opportunity to learn). But I have a question about
the match approach - doesn't the dog learn to avoid you when
you approach from the rear? (I guess we can call it "butt
shy").
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 8:36 am
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Melinda Shore wrote:
> In article ,
> Janet Boss wrote:
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>>Last resort would be to "match" her outside, but if you stick to a
>>committed schedule of not allowing her to use the balcony, along with
>>immediate supervision, you hopefully won't need that.
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> I've found that's all it takes (and it seems to me that if
> you don't have the patience to out-stubborn a dog, this is a
> great opportunity to learn). But I have a question about
> the match approach - doesn't the dog learn to avoid you when
> you approach from the rear? (I guess we can call it "butt
> shy").
Scully is a reluctant pooper, which used to be a huge PITA when we
traveled. She's been "matched" (or "grassed", actually) often enough
that seeing me bend over and pick a grass stem is enough to trigger
pooping. Conditioned response, I guess. She's always outside on lead
for when this technique is used so there's really not much she can do in
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 8:41 am
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shore RemoveThis @panix.com (Melinda Shore) wrote:
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> I've found that's all it takes (and it seems to me that if
> you don't have the patience to out-stubborn a dog, this is a
> great opportunity to learn). But I have a question about
> the match approach - doesn't the dog learn to avoid you when
> you approach from the rear? (I guess we can call it "butt
> shy").
I've not seen it happen, and I think the "right" approach can go a long
way in making sure it doesn't. I've known some dogs who have needed
it whenever they travel, and none seem to have an avoidance issue.
Although matches are cheap, I would probably use a baby suppository.
I've not had to do it to any of my own dogs, and for that I am very
grateful. I do think that this is one of those situations where the
dog has no idea that outside is ok and right, and that information has
to be able to be given. Elimination "on command" is a good thing.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 8:54 am
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Kathleen wrote:
> She's always outside on lead
> for when this technique is used so there's really not much she can do in
> the way of avoidance.
I've never had to match a dog, but when Harriet clamps her nub down,
it's for keeps. There ain't nothin' that'll lift it up again. So
I'm not sure that with some dogs a leash would make a difference.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 9:04 am
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Kathleen wrote:
>Scully is a reluctant pooper, which used to be a huge PITA when we
>traveled. She's been "matched" (or "grassed", actually) often enough
>that seeing me bend over and pick a grass stem is enough to trigger
>pooping. Conditioned response, I guess. She's always outside on lead
>for when this technique is used so there's really not much she can do in
>the way of avoidance.
That's pretty interesting.
It wouldn't be difficult to get past the "ick" factor but I
do worry about betraying the dogs' trust. But I guess that
if they don't mind, I don't mind.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 9:07 am
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Melinda Shore wrote:
> It wouldn't be difficult to get past the "ick" factor but I
> do worry about betraying the dogs' trust. But I guess that
> if they don't mind, I don't mind.
I assume (dangerous, I know) that it's no more of a betrayal than
having their temperatures taken at the vet's office. My dogs have
never seemed overly concerned about that, nor have they shown signs
of being butt-shy because of it.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 9:51 am
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Shelly wrote:
>I assume (dangerous, I know) that it's no more of a betrayal than
>having their temperatures taken at the vet's office.
Back when I adopted Duncan, the shelter did a basic health
exam and gave him shots before letting him go. The shelter
worker took him back to the vets' office and then came out
shaking his head and said "That dog sure don't like having a
thermometer stuck up his butt." But Duncan turned out to
have general problems around being handled.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 11:10 am
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On 2008-04-21 08:29:23 -0400, Janet Boss
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I snipped the other excellent advice
> Clean the balcony thoroughly to kill off any scent.
With an enzyme cleaner specifically formulated to remove the scent
traces of pet waste.
Regular cleaning products won't do the job.... >> Stay informed about: Dog dosent want to poop |
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 11:15 am
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On 2008-04-21 09:07:17 -0400, Shelly said:
> Melinda Shore wrote:
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>> It wouldn't be difficult to get past the "ick" factor but I
>> do worry about betraying the dogs' trust. But I guess that
>> if they don't mind, I don't mind.
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> I assume (dangerous, I know) that it's no more of a betrayal than
> having their temperatures taken at the vet's office. My dogs have
> never seemed overly concerned about that, nor have they shown signs of
> being butt-shy because of it.
What a great term... butt-shy.
Bella is funny about her butt - she HATES having her tail touched 90%
of the time and she gives us the stink eye if we accidentally touch it.
She doesn't have any problem letting us examine her tail and she's okay
with the thermometer, although again, we get the sad accusing eyes of
betrayal. She doesn't appear to have any lasting trauma. >> Stay informed about: Dog dosent want to poop |
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 1:08 pm
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montana wildhack wrote:
> What a great term... butt-shy.
I think that was Melinda's.
> Bella is funny about her butt - she HATES having her tail touched 90% of
> the time and she gives us the stink eye if we accidentally touch it.
Harriet's not especially butt-shy, but that may be because I torture
her by tickling her nubbin. She knows it's a game. Getting her
temperature can be a little tricky, though, if she's feeling
disinclined to cooperate.
> She
> doesn't have any problem letting us examine her tail and she's okay with
> the thermometer, although again, we get the sad accusing eyes of
> betrayal. She doesn't appear to have any lasting trauma.
That! You! Know! Of! Dog abusing thug.
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 1:09 pm
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 1:21 pm
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Shelly wrote:
>Melinda Shore wrote:
>> "That dog sure don't like having a thermometer stuck up his butt."
>To which, you replied, "What dog does?"
That actually should have been a great big red flag. That's
a very high-volume shelter and they stick a lot of
thermometers up a lot of dog butts.
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 1:23 pm
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