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Since: May 10, 2010 Posts: 42
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(Msg. 31) Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 12:59 pm
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On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 09:57:07 -0400, Sharon Delarose
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>In article ,
> Dogman wrote:
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>> Like this young lady obviously does (a picture is worth a thousand
>> words):
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENiuENQpRVg&feature=related
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>You are right Dogman, a picture is worth a thousand words. That was
>beautiful! Would all that have been done with the word "heel" one time
>only at the beginning?
Yes, pretty much (except for the hand-signaled "downs").
Because that's what the "heel" command means. Stay at my side, go when
I go, stay at my pace, turn when I turn, stop and sit when I stop, go
again when I go again, including going backwards, etc.
With just one word: "heel"
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Since: Oct 14, 2010 Posts: 18
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(Msg. 32) Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 2:04 pm
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In article ,
Dogman wrote:
> Because that's what the "heel" command means. Stay at my side, go when
> I go, stay at my pace, turn when I turn, stop and sit when I stop, go
> again when I go again, including going backwards, etc.
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> With just one word: "heel"
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> Dogman
Back on the concept of the many roads to Rome I've been watching YouTube
videos on how to train for the "heel" command (and come no matter what
command). One trainer prefers to start basic training at home without
distractions while another prefers to do it in a public place full of
distractions from the very beginning.
I've only seen one so far that took "heel" from on leash to off leash
and I did not like her method which was using an e-collar. They tend to
talk more to their dogs during the sessions than I would have expected.
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Since: Jan 27, 2005 Posts: 1388
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(Msg. 33) Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 2:21 pm
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On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 14:04:59 -0400, Sharon Delarose
wrote:
>In article ,
> Dogman wrote:
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>> Because that's what the "heel" command means. Stay at my side, go when
>> I go, stay at my pace, turn when I turn, stop and sit when I stop, go
>> again when I go again, including going backwards, etc.
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>> With just one word: "heel"
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>> Dogman
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>Back on the concept of the many roads to Rome I've been watching YouTube
>videos on how to train for the "heel" command (and come no matter what
>command). One trainer prefers to start basic training at home without
>distractions while another prefers to do it in a public place full of
>distractions from the very beginning.
Given your concern with rpdb people's backgrounds, I'm a little
surprised you'd choose to watch random anonymous YouTube videos for
training information. You'd be far better off buying a training video
made by someone like Ian Dunbar. I've never met a trainer who prefers
to start training in a public place full of distractions. Dogs need
to concentrate, just like people, and training in an environment with
too many distractions can cause some dogs to just shut down.
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>I've only seen one so far that took "heel" from on leash to off leash
>and I did not like her method which was using an e-collar. They tend to
>talk more to their dogs during the sessions than I would have expected.
Again, you'd be better off buying a training video than watching
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Since: May 10, 2010 Posts: 42
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(Msg. 34) Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 3:31 pm
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Since: May 11, 2010 Posts: 8
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(Msg. 35) Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:38 pm
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On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 09:35:38 -0400, Sharon Delarose wrote:
> Believe it or not, sonofdog, my husband and I are the perfect couple.
no doubts, he may even do sit and down, stay maybe problematic like with
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Since: May 11, 2010 Posts: 8
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(Msg. 36) Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 7:50 pm
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On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 09:37:24 -0400, Sharon Delarose wrote:
> In article ,
> Sharon Delarose wrote:
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>> These she understands:
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>> Sit
>> Stay
>> Come
>> Lay Down
>> No
>> Our release word
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>> Go pee pee
>> Go poopie
>> Good girl
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>> If I've missed one apologies as I haven't memorized a list. We do have
>> a word for "heel" though I'm not sure she understands it yet.
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> Okay, I did miss one:
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> "Nice"
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> For when I'm giving her a treat and I want to teach her not to take my
> fingers off.
Put a very tasty treat in your hand and close your hand into fist, do it
the way so your dog sees it. Now present it to her but do not release the
treat until she backs from your hand. Repeat few times and watch her
learning. No words/command needed, praise is ok.
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Since: Oct 14, 2010 Posts: 18
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(Msg. 37) Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 10:08 pm
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In article ,
sighthounds & siberians wrote:
> Given your concern with rpdb people's backgrounds, I'm a little
> surprised you'd choose to watch random anonymous YouTube videos for
> training information. You'd be far better off buying a training video
> made by someone like Ian Dunbar. I've never met a trainer who prefers
> to start training in a public place full of distractions. Dogs need
> to concentrate, just like people, and training in an environment with
> too many distractions can cause some dogs to just shut down.
That's the point. With the variety of different training methods and
the fact that there are those I would not like, to choose one at random
that may not appeal to me (such as the one with the e-collar) makes no
sense either.
To watch several from different people offers a broader perspective. To
see different training styles and philosophies is more beneficial for
me. Instead of the question, "Do I like this? Yes or no." the question
becomes, "Okay, which one do I like the best? Which one makes the most
sense to me? Which one fits my way of handling my dogs? Which one am I
the most likely to stick with?"
In addition, you can compare the similarities as well as the
differences. For you, maybe blasphemy. For me, I trust my ability to
weed out the chaff.
Besides, I would not have been so questioning of the people here if all
that were posted were beneficial info concerning dogs. It's the
bickering, name calling and so forth that made me question the people
here.
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Since: Oct 14, 2010 Posts: 18
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(Msg. 38) Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 10:12 pm
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In article ,
sonofdog wrote:
> Put a very tasty treat in your hand and close your hand into fist, do it
> the way so your dog sees it. Now present it to her but do not release the
> treat until she backs from your hand. Repeat few times and watch her
> learning. No words/command needed, praise is ok.
> WARNING: at first you may want to use gloves.
LOL! Yes she has very sharp little teeth and she gets over eager to get
at the goodie.
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Since: Oct 14, 2010 Posts: 18
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(Msg. 39) Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 9:50 am
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Sierra had an awesome night last night, her quietest yet. Settled right
down, slept thru the night and even when I got up in the wee hours
myself she did not stir.
When we did start moving around as we do before we get up, she sat up,
alert, but even then not a peep. She's getting the hang of our
sleep/wake routine.
I got wondering about something this morning. As dogs get to know our
individual body smells, I wonder what they think when we put a different
scent on? I use the same lotion every day and it has a smell on top of
my own, but today I used a different one with a very strong scent. I
just wonder how that registers for them.
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Since: May 11, 2010 Posts: 8
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(Msg. 40) Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 4:13 pm
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On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 22:12:46 -0400, Sharon Delarose wrote:
> In article ,
> sonofdog wrote:
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>> Put a very tasty treat in your hand and close your hand into fist, do
>> it the way so your dog sees it. Now present it to her but do not
>> release the treat until she backs from your hand. Repeat few times and
>> watch her learning. No words/command needed, praise is ok. WARNING: at
>> first you may want to use gloves.
>
> LOL! Yes she has very sharp little teeth and she gets over eager to get
> at the goodie.
have you done it yet ? >> Stay informed about: Sleep time and wake time |
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(Msg. 41) Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 4:19 pm
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On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 22:08:52 -0400, Sharon Delarose wrote:
> Besides, I would not have been so questioning of the people here if all
> that were posted were beneficial info concerning dogs. It's the
> bickering, name calling and so forth that made me question the people
> here.
so why you participate in all of the above ?
can't you afford to visit any better website ?
how about reading books ? you may start with your own, I bet this will
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(Msg. 42) Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 4:19 pm
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On Sun, 17 Oct 2010 16:19:05 +0000 (UTC), sonofdog
wrote:
>On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 22:08:52 -0400, Sharon Delarose wrote:
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>> Besides, I would not have been so questioning of the people here if all
>> that were posted were beneficial info concerning dogs. It's the
>> bickering, name calling and so forth that made me question the people
>> here.
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>so why you participate in all of the above?
Did you get that, Sonofdog?
Queen Delarose demands a certain ambiance when she receives beneficial
information. It's not enough just to provide the actual beneficial
information. No, no! It must be hand-delivered to Her Royal Highness
in a plain vanilla wrapper, atop a velvet pillow. Otherwise she'll
"question" it.
Sigh.
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(Msg. 43) Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 8:25 pm
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On Sun, 17 Oct 2010 14:41:12 -0400, Dogman wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Oct 2010 16:19:05 +0000 (UTC), sonofdog
> wrote:
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>>On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 22:08:52 -0400, Sharon Delarose wrote:
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>>> Besides, I would not have been so questioning of the people here if
>>> all that were posted were beneficial info concerning dogs. It's the
>>> bickering, name calling and so forth that made me question the people
>>> here.
>>
>>so why you participate in all of the above?
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> Did you get that, Sonofdog?
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> Queen Delarose demands a certain ambiance when she receives beneficial
> information. It's not enough just to provide the actual beneficial
> information. No, no! It must be hand-delivered to Her Royal Highness in
> a plain vanilla wrapper, atop a velvet pillow. Otherwise she'll
> "question" it.
>
> Sigh.
I think i have not, I live in wild west, no monarchs here but a bear >> Stay informed about: Sleep time and wake time |
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